Morrowind talk:Ienas Sarandas (quest)

Liquid Persuasion

Isn't it also possible to persuade him using some sort of alcohol (vintage brandy or Dagoth brandy perhaps), or am I mis-remembering?

Yes, you can offer him either Greef, Cyrodiliic Brandy, or Flin (in that order). He won't actually take it from you, you just have to be carrying a bottle. (I guess he just takes a sip or something - cheap date.) You can also do it with a copy of Saryoni's Sermons, a Speechcraft of >= 50, or a Disposition of >= 60. The Saryoni's Sermons trick is listed, as is the Disposition (though not the exact value needed), but the others are not, I'll add them. --TheRealLurlock ^Talk 01:40, 8 January 2009 (EST)

Glitch

It appears that when returning the shirt and pants to Bivale Teneran, you do not actually receive the 50 gold reward. 76.192.99.57 08:05, 1 May 2010 (UTC)

Correct - and a good spot. I've added a bug section to the page to explain the problem and suggest a workaround. rpeh •T•C•E• 14:11, 1 May 2010 (UTC)

Temple

Actually, he turns up in the temple immediately, you just have to ask about him once again and a trader will tell you that he dedidcated himself to the temple. It doesn't happen after a few days - just immediately. — Unsigned comment by Umma86 (talk • contribs) on 5 May 2011

You're right - he moves there as soon as you leave his house. I've changed the article accordingly. rpeh •T•C•E• 15:41, 5 May 2011 (UTC)

Pay off the Merchandise?

While the unique merchandise in question were made to Ienas' order rather than mine, if I could order rings custom-made, ebony and glass would have been my choice. (Of course, my specifications would have included enhanced enchantment capacity.)

While each of the merchants requested either the merchandise returned or the rest of the amount owed, the game seems to make no provision for paying the final payments; you either return the merchandise or follow the "Evil Path".

Or am I missing something? Downstrike (talk) 11:45, 26 February 2013 (GMT)

No, there's not way to pay off Ienas' debt for him or anything. The only way to resolve the quest is to return the items one way or another. -- Hargrimm^(T) 23:55, 27 March 2014 (GMT)

Pickpocket?

Can anyone test whether it's possible to pickpocket any of the items off on Ienas? All the merchants have three levels of reaction to you returning the item. Their extra-happy reaction occurs when you persuade him to give you the items, and the extra-unhappy one occurs when you kill him for them. However, there's a middle, neutral reaction that I can't figure out how it would be triggered other than pickpocketing the items and thus neither persuading nor murdering Ieanas. I checked already and no matter which method of persuasion you use, it sets the stage to 45, which is what triggers the happy merchant reaction. -- Hargrimm^(T) 23:55, 27 March 2014 (GMT)

I tried pickpocketing him with console-enhanced Sneak, and the only piece of clothing he's not wearing (other than some Common Pants and Shirt) is the Glass Ring, which you can't return without the Ebony Ring, so it's not particularly useful. You could try adding those items to your inventory via the console and returning them to their respective owners to check if that works. -- Kertaw48 (talk) 12:50, 7 June 2014 (GMT)

After pickpocketing the Glass Ring from him, I convinced him to change his ways and he disrobed, giving everything to me—plus another Glass Ring.

I put the extra ring on the counter before redeeming the intended ones to the questgiver. I wasn't sure if this made a difference but with that, I now have my own Glass Ring.

I didn't come across this post until afterwards, otherwise I would have tried do experiment with adding the items via console command in order to circumvent the 'bad option' from murdering Ienas. Chill fridge (talk) 19:50, 8 July 2023 (UTC)

Latest Rumors

I'm not sure whether it's because I'm using mods and/or patches but I can never seem to get journal entry town_ald_ienas. When I talk about latest rumors, the citizens of Ald-ruhn talk about a lot of things (bandits, Redoran duels, Ienas Sarandas, rogue Telvanni, etc.) but the journal never updates when they mention him looking nothing like he's having money troubles.

Another thing I noticed, when I talk to locals (sans the five merchants and Gildan) about latest rumors, AFTER resolving the quest peacefully, is that they'll mention how they heard what I did with him and how it's a pretty thing. Their disposition also goes up by 20 each time they do that (up to a maximum of 70). It reminds me of the people in Pelagiad after doing the silver bowl quest. I was wondering if anyone else is also experiencing the same thing? Salamangkero (talk) 19:59, 1 April 2015 (GMT)

Reputation

After having tested this a few times, you do NOT get the reputation point if you convince him to give you the items by letting him taste Greef, Cyrodillic Brandy or Flin. I DID get the reputation point when I used his copy of Sardoni's Sermons, though. The other notable thing is that the reputation point is given upon convincing him to give you the items, NOT when they're returned. This means there doesn't seem to be much incentive to return them (other than honesty, I guess?). Bushwhacker (talk) 19:40, 29 July 2018 (UTC)

Tested it in openmw and I'm getting reputation points for every way of convincing him, be it via high disposition or alchocol/bòok. And yes, we're geting reputation point immediately after talking to him. Yoy lose on merchants' disposition raise, though.

--109.70.100.4 10:12, 7 September 2023 (UTC)

The article is now somewhat confusing about when and how you get reputation and how much disposition. Do the sermons grant reputation (Detailed Walkthrough) or returning the items (Notes) and do you not get 40 disposition but 20 in case you use the sermons (Notes)? That's not too clear from the current bullet list in that section. — Unsigned comment by Threore (talk • contribs) at 09:19 on 28 February 2024 (UTC)

Bug

I found a bug with the quest, I completed all the other quests and he became a monk in the temple. After completing these, I spoke to the enchanter, Llether Vari, he gave me a quest to return some designer shoes that he owed him. I asked Ienas Sarandas at the temple to return these shoes (I used the topic "overdue payments") and he said "Yes, I do have some overdue payments with local merchants. But I'm afraid I can't pay my debts right now. You see, I'm a little strapped for cash at the moment. But I have certain very attractive prospects underway, and I'm sure I'll be able to pay very soon." Using commands, I added the designer shoes for the quest item to my inventory and I was able to complete the quest by returning them to Llether Vari. DaedricSword77 (talk) 01:34, 12 March 2022 (UTC)

Saryoni's Sermons

My character used the Saryoni's Sermons dialogue when picking the "gently persuade" or whatever that dialogue option was, but unlike mentioned in the article I didn't have the book on me. I did have it before, as I've done much of the Temple questline and you get one there. I can't use the construction set at the moment, but perhaps the check for the book doesn't require currently carrying it OR being a temple member also counts? Threore (talk) 09:15, 28 February 2024 (UTC)

I just checked the CS and it does look like you need the book in your inventory to see this option. —⁠Legoless (talk) 09:26, 28 February 2024 (UTC)

I made a new character and checked all the options in-game (OpenMW version). You indeed require the book to get the dialogue option to use the Sermons. Oddly enough the persuasion option also refers to the player quoting the Sermons, and the Sermons option does too but also refers to the player speaking of what the honorable thing to do is. I think the dialogue is mismatched and the Sermons text was accidentally added to the persuasion option. Regardless, that is what had me confused. Threore (talk) 10:23, 28 February 2024 (UTC)